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\n B\u0259\u015fir S\u00fcleymanl\u0131: Ba\u015f ver\u0259nl\u0259r\u00a0d\u00f6vl\u0259t\u0259 qar\u015f\u0131 etimads\u0131zl\u0131q yarad\u0131r
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\n Jurnalistl\u0259rin M\u00fct\u0259\u015f\u0259kkil Cinay\u0259tkarl\u0131q v\u0259 Korrupsiyan\u0131 Ara\u015fd\u0131rma Layih\u0259si (OCCRP)\u00a0Az\u0259rbaycan h\u00f6kum\u0259tinin\u00a0\u0130srailin \u201cNSO Group\u201dundan \u201cPegasus\u201d proqram\u0131 alaraq jurnalistl\u0259ri, siyasi f\u0259allar\u0131, v\u0259kill\u0259ri v\u0259 dig\u0259r \u015f\u0259xsl\u0259rin telefonlar\u0131n\u0131 dinl\u0259diyi bar\u0259d\u0259 b\u0259yanat\u0131 g\u00fcnd\u0259min m\u00fczakir\u0259 predmetidir.\n<\/p>\n

\n Siyah\u0131da ad\u0131 olanlar aras\u0131nda V\u0259t\u0259nda\u015f H\u00fcquqlar\u0131 \u0130nstutunun r\u0259hb\u0259ri B\u0259\u015fir S\u00fcleymanl\u0131 da var.\n<\/p>\n

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\n –\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0B\u0259\u015fir b\u0259y, \u00fcmumiyy\u0259tl\u0259, telefonunuzun dinl\u0259nildiyini ehtimal edirdinizmi?
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\n –\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Uzun ill\u0259rdir v\u0259t\u0259nda\u015f c\u0259miyy\u0259ti, insan h\u00fcquqlar\u0131n\u0131n m\u00fcdafi\u0259si sah\u0259sind\u0259 \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131r\u0131q v\u0259 zaman-zaman da t\u0259zyiql\u0259r\u0259, t\u0259qibl\u0259r\u0259 m\u0259ruz qalm\u0131\u015f\u0131q. M\u00fcxt\u0259lif qurumlar t\u0259r\u0259find\u0259n f\u0259aliyy\u0259timiz t\u0259qib olunub, izl\u0259nmi\u015fik. Buna g\u00f6r\u0259 d\u0259 bel\u0259 t\u0259\u0259ss\u00fcrat yaran\u0131rd\u0131 ki, f\u0259aliyy\u0259timiz n\u0259zar\u0259t alt\u0131ndad\u0131r, o c\u00fcml\u0259d\u0259n, h\u0259r\u0259k\u0259t trayektoriyam\u0131z, kiml\u0259rl\u0259 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcr\u00fcks\u0259, h\u0259min adamlar da n\u0259zar\u0259td\u0259dir. Bu bax\u0131mdan telefonlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n da dinl\u0259nilm\u0259sini ehtimal edirdik. T\u0259bii ki, \u0259limizd\u0259 d\u0259qiq \u0259saslar\u0131m\u0131z olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan ehtimallarla yana\u015f\u0131rd\u0131q bu m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259y\u0259. Amma ehtimallar\u0131m\u0131z da do\u011fru \u00e7\u0131x\u0131rd\u0131, t\u0259sdiqini tap\u0131rd\u0131. M\u0259s\u0259l\u0259n, ill\u0259r \u00f6nc\u0259 hans\u0131sa b\u00f6lg\u0259y\u0259 s\u0259f\u0259rl\u0259rimiz zaman\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fd\u00fcy\u00fcm\u00fcz adamlar\u0131n m\u00fcxt\u0259lif qurumlar t\u0259r\u0259find\u0259n sor\u011fu-suala tutulmas\u0131 \u0259sas verirdi dey\u0259k ki, f\u0259aliyy\u0259timiz n\u0259zar\u0259t alt\u0131ndad\u0131r.\n<\/p>\n

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\n –\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Telefonunuzun dinl\u0259nildiyi haqda m\u0259lumat alanda n\u0259 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcn\u00fcz v\u0259 kiml\u0259r\u0259 m\u00fcraci\u0259t etdiniz?
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\n –\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Bir insan olaraq \u00e7ox pis t\u0259sir etdi. M\u0259n v\u0259t\u0259nda\u015f oldu\u011fum \u00f6lk\u0259nin h\u00fcquq-m\u00fchafiz\u0259 orqanlar\u0131, r\u0259hb\u0259rliyi t\u0259r\u0259find\u0259n dinl\u0259nilirdim. Baxmayaraq ki, \u201cPeqasus\u201d proqram\u0131 terror cinay\u0259tind\u0259 i\u015ftirak\u00e7\u0131 oalnlarla ba\u011fl\u0131 haz\u0131rlan\u0131b v\u0259 bu kimi adamlara qar\u015f\u0131 istifad\u0259 \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn d\u00f6vl\u0259tl\u0259r\u0259 sat\u0131l\u0131b. Bu proqram\u0131n insan h\u00fcquqlar\u0131n\u0131n m\u00fcdafi\u0259sind\u0259 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan birin\u0259 qar\u015f\u0131 y\u00f6n\u0259lm\u0259si pis t\u0259sir g\u00f6st\u0259rdi. Bununla ba\u011fl\u0131 v\u0259kill\u0259rl\u0259, adlar\u0131 siyah\u0131da olanlarla m\u00fc\u0259yy\u0259n m\u0259sl\u0259h\u0259tl\u0259\u015fm\u0259l\u0259r apard\u0131q v\u0259 m\u00fcvafiq olaraq h\u00fcquqi \u00e7\u0259r\u00e7iv\u0259d\u0259 prosesi aparma\u011f\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u00fck.\n<\/p>\n

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\n –\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0B\u0259\u015fir b\u0259y, \u201cPeqasus\u201d proqram\u0131 il\u0259 dinl\u0259nil\u0259nl\u0259rin siyah\u0131s\u0131nda h\u00f6kum\u0259ti d\u0259st\u0259kl\u0259y\u0259nl\u0259rin d\u0259 adlar\u0131 yer al\u0131b. Onlar\u0131n ad\u0131 bu siyah\u0131ya \u015f\u00fcbh\u0259 yarad\u0131r, bu bar\u0259d\u0259 n\u0259 dey\u0259 bil\u0259rsiniz?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n –\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcr\u0259m, o m\u0259qam \u015f\u00fcbh\u0259 yarad\u0131c\u0131 amildir. Dinl\u0259m\u0259 prosesini ara\u015fd\u0131rsaq, \u00e7oxvektorlu \u015f\u0259xsl\u0259ri \u0259hat\u0259 etdiyi m\u0259lum olar. Yaln\u0131z m\u00fcxalif\u0259t, v\u0259t\u0259nda\u015f c\u0259miyy\u0259tinin n\u00fcmay\u0259nd\u0259l\u0259ri, jurnalistl\u0259r ola bilm\u0259z. O c\u00fcml\u0259d\u0259n, h\u00f6kum\u0259tin \u0259traf\u0131nda olan adamlar da zaman-zaman siyah\u0131ya d\u00fc\u015f\u0259 bil\u0259r. Siz ehtimal etmirsiniz ki, h\u0259min proqram olmasa bel\u0259, dig\u0259r t\u0259hl\u00fck\u0259sizlik qurumlar\u0131 nazirlikl\u0259ri, komit\u0259l\u0259ri, idar\u0259etm\u0259d\u0259 i\u015ftirak ed\u0259nl\u0259ri d\u0259 dinl\u0259yir? M\u0259nc\u0259, h\u0259tta daxild\u0259 d\u0259 olsa, bu ba\u015f verir. Biz icra ba\u015f\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131n D\u00f6vl\u0259t T\u0259hl\u00fck\u0259sizliyi Xidm\u0259ti t\u0259r\u0259find\u0259n i\u015f ba\u015f\u0131nda yaxalanmas\u0131 zaman\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fck ki, bu adamlar daim izl\u0259nilib. Laz\u0131m olan vaxtda da onlara qar\u015f\u0131 istifad\u0259 edibl\u0259r.\n<\/p>\n

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\n –\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Jurnalistl\u0259rin M\u00fct\u0259\u015f\u0259kkil Cinay\u0259tkarl\u0131q v\u0259 Korrupsiyan\u0131 Ara\u015fd\u0131rma Layih\u0259si (OCCRP) Az\u0259rbaycandan dinl\u0259nil\u0259rin say\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7ox oldu\u011funu deyib. Ancaq siyah\u0131n\u0131n bir hiss\u0259sini a\u00e7d\u0131lar, sizc\u0259, adlar\u0131n tam a\u00e7\u0131qlanmas\u0131na ehtiyac varm\u0131?
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\n –\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0M\u0259n art\u0131q y\u0259qin etmi\u015f\u0259m ki, OCCRP t\u0259xmin\u0259n bir qrupdan adlar a\u00e7\u0131qlay\u0131b. M\u0259s\u0259l\u0259n, jurnalistl\u0259rd\u0259n, v\u0259t\u0259nda\u015f c\u0259miyy\u0259ti n\u00fcmay\u0259nd\u0259l\u0259rind\u0259n, h\u00f6kum\u0259t\u0259 yax\u0131n jurnalistl\u0259rd\u0259n. Bu, yen\u0259 d\u0259 h\u0259min \u015f\u0259xsl\u0259rin \u0259hat\u0259 dair\u0259sini daha geni\u015f olan\u0131d\u0131r. Bundan \u00e7ox olas\u0131 deyil, t\u0259bii ki, daha \u00e7ox insan\u0131n dinl\u0259nilm\u0259si v\u0259 adlar\u0131n \u00e7ox olmas\u0131 hans\u0131sa bir proses\u0259 s\u0259b\u0259b ola bil\u0259r, insanlarda narahatl\u0131q yaradar, o c\u00fcml\u0259d\u0259n, \u00f6lk\u0259l\u0259r\u0259 qar\u015f\u0131 etimad it\u0259r. \u018fg\u0259r bir \u00f6lk\u0259nin r\u0259hb\u0259ri v\u0259t\u0259nda\u015flar\u0131 m\u0259hk\u0259m\u0259 q\u0259rar\u0131 olmadan, yaxud cinay\u0259td\u0259 i\u015ftirak\u00e7\u0131 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 halda dinl\u0259tm\u0259y\u0259 m\u0259ruz qoyursa, bu, yax\u015f\u0131 hal deyil v\u0259 d\u00f6vl\u0259t\u0259 qar\u015f\u0131 etimads\u0131zl\u0131q yarad\u0131r.\n<\/p>\n

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\n –\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Bu bar\u0259d\u0259 x\u0259b\u0259ri alandan sonra hans\u0131 t\u0259hl\u00fck\u0259sizlik t\u0259dbirl\u0259ri g\u00f6rd\u00fcn\u00fcz?
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\n –\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u018fvv\u0259la, m\u00fcxt\u0259lif proqramlar\u0131 azaltma\u011fa \u00e7al\u0131\u015fd\u0131m, b\u0259zil\u0259rini yenl\u0259dim. \u00dcmumiyy\u0259tl\u0259, telefon vasit\u0259sil\u0259 \u015f\u0259xsi i\u015fl\u0259rimi aparmama\u011fa \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131ram. Onsuz da bizim ictimai f\u0259aliyy\u0259timiz gizli deyil, a\u00e7\u0131qd\u0131r, n\u0259hay\u0259t, qanunvericilikd\u0259 qada\u011fan olunan i\u015fl\u0259rl\u0259 m\u0259\u015f\u011ful deyilik. Buna g\u00f6r\u0259 narahat deyil\u0259m.\n<\/p>\n

\n O c\u00fcml\u0259d\u0259n, jurnalistl\u0259r. Onlar da yazmaqdan ba\u015fqa ayr\u0131 n\u0259 i\u015f g\u00f6r\u00fcr? Yazmaq, \u00e7\u0259kib g\u00f6st\u0259rm\u0259k, bunlar a\u00e7\u0131q f\u0259aliyy\u0259tdir. Ona g\u00f6r\u0259 narahatl\u0131q do\u011furan \u015f\u0259xsi h\u0259yata m\u00fcdaxil\u0259dir, ail\u0259si, dostlar\u0131 v\u0259 dig\u0259r yax\u0131nlarla olan m\u00fcnasib\u0259tl\u0259rin n\u0259zar\u0259td\u0259 saxlan\u0131lmas\u0131 diskamfort yarad\u0131r. \u018fn \u0259sas\u0131 bu, Konstitusiyan\u0131n 31-ci madd\u0259sinin pozuntusudur, v\u0259t\u0259nda\u015f\u0131n \u015f\u0259xsi h\u0259yat\u0131na m\u00fcdaxil\u0259dir. Bir daha deyir\u0259m, biz gizli f\u0259aliyy\u0259tl\u0259 m\u0259\u015f\u011ful deyilik ki, narahat olaq. Onsuz da indiy\u0259 q\u0259d\u0259rki f\u0259aliyy\u0259timiz a\u00e7\u0131q olub, bundan sonra da bel\u0259 davam ed\u0259c\u0259k.\n<\/p>\n

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\n –\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0M\u0259s\u0259l\u0259ni h\u00fcquqi m\u00fcst\u0259viy\u0259 g\u0259tir\u0259c\u0259ksinizmi?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n –\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u018flb\u0259tt\u0259, v\u0259kill\u0259rimizl\u0259 m\u00fczakir\u0259l\u0259r apar\u0131r\u0131q. M\u00fc\u0259yy\u0259n s\u0259n\u0259dl\u0259r \u0259ld\u0259 edildikd\u0259n sonra, h\u00fcquq-m\u00fchafiz\u0259 orqanlar\u0131na m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259nin ara\u015fd\u0131r\u0131lmas\u0131 il\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131 \u015fikay\u0259timiz olacaq. T\u0259bii ki, yerli m\u0259hk\u0259m\u0259l\u0259rin \u015fikay\u0259ti \u0259dal\u0259tli ara\u015fd\u0131raca\u011f\u0131na inanm\u0131ram, amma bu \u015fikay\u0259ti Avropa \u0130nsan Haqlar\u0131 M\u0259hk\u0259m\u0259sin\u0259 q\u0259d\u0259r aparma\u011f\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr\u00fck.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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