{"id":202112,"date":"2020-08-24T22:39:48","date_gmt":"2020-08-24T22:39:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.meydan.tv\/article\/men-her-seher-elime-beli-goturub-qaziram\/"},"modified":"2020-08-24T22:39:48","modified_gmt":"2020-08-24T22:39:48","slug":"men-her-seher-elime-beli-goturub-qaziram","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.meydan.tv\/az\/article\/men-her-seher-elime-beli-goturub-qaziram\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cM\u0259n h\u0259r s\u0259h\u0259r \u0259lim\u0259 beli g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcb qaz\u0131ram\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"

\n Material
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\n \u201cNovaya qazeta\u201d
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\n sayt\u0131nda d\u0259rc olunub\n<\/p>\n

\n Belarus etiraz aksiyalar\u0131n\u0131n \u0259sas ulduzu Mariya Kolesnikova il\u0259 m\u00fcsahib\u0259\n<\/p>\n

\n Fleyta ifa\u00e7\u0131s\u0131 v\u0259 \u201cOK16\u201d m\u0259d\u0259niyy\u0259t xab\u0131n\u0131n art-direktoru Mariya Kolesnikova prezidentliy\u0259 namiz\u0259d Svetlana Tixanovskaya Litvaya ged\u0259nd\u0259n sonra etiraz dal\u011fas\u0131n\u0131n \u0259sas q\u0259hr\u0259man\u0131na \u00e7evrilib. O, Minskd\u0259 ke\u00e7iril\u0259n b\u00fct\u00fcn \u0259h\u0259miyy\u0259tli mitinql\u0259rd\u0259 \u00e7\u0131x\u0131\u015f edir, m\u00fcnt\u0259z\u0259m olaraq dig\u0259r \u015f\u0259h\u0259rl\u0259r\u0259 gedir, xalqa \u00e7a\u011f\u0131r\u0131\u015flar yaz\u0131r v\u0259 xarici K\u0130V-\u0259 m\u00fcsahib\u0259 verir. \u201cNovaya qazeta\u201dn\u0131n x\u00fcsusi m\u00fcxbiri \u0130lya Azar Kolesnikova il\u0259 Belarusda dinc inqilab\u0131n perspektivl\u0259ri, Luka\u015fenkonun gedi\u015fi v\u0259 musiqinin siyas\u0259tl\u0259 s\u0131x \u0259laq\u0259si haqda dan\u0131\u015f\u0131b.\n<\/p>\n

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\n – Sizinl\u0259 prezident administrasiyas\u0131 binas\u0131n\u0131n yax\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndak\u0131 kafed\u0259 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015f\u00fck. H\u0259bs olunaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131zdan he\u00e7 qorxmursunuz? Adi h\u0259yat ya\u015fay\u0131rs\u0131n\u0131z?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -\u00d6t\u0259n h\u0259yat\u0131mdan m\u0259n\u0259 salam ver\u0259n o q\u0259d\u0259r \u00e7ox adam qalmay\u0131b, odur ki, h\u0259r g\u00fcn kafed\u0259 dostlar\u0131mla ax\u015fam yem\u0259yi t\u0259\u015fkil edib, bundan z\u00f6vq alma\u011fa \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131ram (g\u00fcl\u00fcr).\n<\/p>\n

\n –
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\n Amma Belarus M\u00fcxalif\u0259ti Koordinasiya \u015euras\u0131n\u0131n R\u0259yas\u0259t Hey\u0259tind\u0259n h\u0259mkarlar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 art\u0131q \u0130stintaq Komit\u0259sin\u0259 \u00e7a\u011f\u0131r\u0131blar.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Onlar qorxma\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 \u00e7ox ist\u0259yirl\u0259r, amma bizim qorxacaq bir yerimiz yoxdur, \u00e7\u00fcnki qanun \u00e7\u0259r\u00e7iv\u0259sind\u0259 h\u0259r\u0259k\u0259t edirik, onu he\u00e7 bir v\u0259chl\u0259 pozmuruq. Bilir\u0259m, haz\u0131rk\u0131 v\u0259ziyy\u0259td\u0259 bu, g\u00fclm\u0259li s\u0259sl\u0259nir, amma biz divan\u0131n alt\u0131na girib gizl\u0259nm\u0259y\u0259c\u0259yik, onlara bu h\u0259zzi ya\u015fatmayaca\u011f\u0131q.\n<\/p>\n

\n –
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\n Lakin Svetlana Tixanovskaya v\u0259 Veronika Sepkalo \u00e7\u0131x\u0131b getdil\u0259r, K\u015e-nin \u00fczv\u00fc, r\u0259ssam Vladimir Sesler d\u0259 getdi. Onlar\u0131n etdikl\u0259rini he\u00e7 d\u0259 a\u011f\u0131ls\u0131z h\u0259r\u0259k\u0259t saym\u0131ram.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Yox, m\u0259nim \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn a\u011f\u0131ll\u0131 h\u0259r\u0259k\u0259t bir il \u0259vv\u0259l bura g\u0259lib haz\u0131rk\u0131 i\u015fd\u0259 \u2013 Belarusda yegan\u0259 m\u0259d\u0259niyy\u0259t xab\u0131n\u0131n art-direktoru v\u0259zif\u0259sind\u0259 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaq oldu. \u00dcst\u0259lik m\u0259nim \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn daha a\u011f\u0131ll\u0131 h\u0259r\u0259k\u0259t Viktor Babarikonun (prezidentliy\u0259 namiz\u0259d) kampaniyas\u0131na k\u00f6m\u0259k etm\u0259k, indi v\u0259 daha sonra burda qalmaqd\u0131r. Bel\u0259 ki, konkret \u015f\u0259xsi m\u0259qs\u0259dim var \u2013 \u00f6z\u00fcm\u0259 yax\u0131n bildiyim adamlar azad edilm\u0259lidirl\u0259r. Onlar\u0131n burda, DTK-n\u0131n istintaq t\u0259cridxanas\u0131nda, ya da ba\u015fqa m\u0259hb\u0259sl\u0259rd\u0259 saxlan\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan x\u0259b\u0259rim oldu\u011fu halda \u015etutqarta (Mariya Almaniyada bloklu fleyta d\u0259rsi ke\u00e7ib \u2013 m\u00fcxbirin qeydi) v\u0259 ya ba\u015fqa bir yer\u0259 ged\u0259 bilm\u0259r\u0259m. Ayd\u0131nd\u0131r ki, Belarus xalq\u0131n\u0131n azad olmas\u0131n\u0131 ist\u0259yir\u0259m. Bu xalq\u0131nsa ist\u0259diyi se\u00e7kil\u0259rin yenid\u0259n v\u0259 d\u00fczg\u00fcn ke\u00e7irilm\u0259sidir. Amma bu, m\u0259nim \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn h\u0259m d\u0259 \u015f\u0259xsi hekay\u0259dir.\n<\/p>\n

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\n -Sizi y\u0259qin ki h\u0259d\u0259l\u0259yibl\u0259r v\u0259 x\u0259b\u0259rdar edibl\u0259r.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -\u018flb\u0259tt\u0259.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Y\u0259ni bel\u0259 \u00e7\u0131x\u0131r ki, i\u00e7\u0259rid\u0259 yatma\u011fa haz\u0131rs\u0131n\u0131z?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Yox, haz\u0131r deyil\u0259m v\u0259 m\u0259hb\u0259sd\u0259 olmaq ist\u0259mir\u0259m. S\u00f6zs\u00fcz ki, bu, ba\u015f ver\u0259rs\u0259, he\u00e7 d\u0259 sevinm\u0259y\u0259c\u0259m, amma hesab edir\u0259m ki, \u0259m\u0259ll\u0259rimin he\u00e7 olmasa bir faizi n\u0259y\u0259s\u0259 k\u00f6m\u0259k ed\u0259 bil\u0259rs\u0259 dayanmamal\u0131yam (bu m\u0259qamda qon\u015fu masada \u00fc\u00e7 ki\u015fi \u0259yl\u0259\u015fir, s\u00f6hb\u0259timiz\u0259 ara verir\u0259m, lakin Kolesnikova g\u00fcl\u0259r\u0259k m\u0259ni sakitl\u0259\u015fdirir: \u201cOnlar \u00f6zl\u0259rini bu c\u00fcr aparmazd\u0131lar, \u00fcst\u0259lik onlar\u0131n (\u0259m\u0259liyyat\u00e7\u0131lar), ad\u0259t\u0259n, q\u0131sa, yax\u015f\u0131ca \u00fct\u00fcl\u0259nmi\u015f k\u00f6yn\u0259kl\u0259ri olur\u201d).\n<\/p>\n

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\n -Raz\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z ki, ham\u0131n\u0131z\u0131n t\u0259hl\u00fck\u0259sizlik z\u0259man\u0259tiniz k\u00fc\u00e7\u0259l\u0259rd\u0259ki insanlar\u0131n say\u0131d\u0131r?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Z\u0259man\u0259t konkret m\u0259nim \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn \u00fczd\u0259 olmaqd\u0131r. S\u00f6zs\u00fcz ki, \u0259hat\u0259md\u0259 insanlar da olmal\u0131d\u0131r. M\u0259n k\u00fc\u00e7\u0259d\u0259 adamlar\u0131n aras\u0131nda \u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fc t\u0259hl\u00fck\u0259siz hiss edir\u0259m. Biz m\u00fchafiz\u0259 ideyas\u0131ndan tamamil\u0259 imtina etdik. Ax\u0131 ayd\u0131nd\u0131r, OMON-la dolu avtobus g\u0259ls\u0259, he\u00e7 bir superpe\u015f\u0259kar m\u00fchafiz\u0259 d\u0259st\u0259si onlar\u0131n \u00f6hd\u0259sind\u0259n g\u0259lm\u0259y\u0259c\u0259k. Viktor Babarikonun da m\u00f6vqeyi bel\u0259 idi.\n<\/p>\n

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\n Minskd\u0259 etiraz aksiyas\u0131 Foto: Evgeni Maloletka
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\n
\n -Dem\u0259k ist\u0259yir\u0259m ki, n\u0259 q\u0259d\u0259r ki k\u00fctl\u0259vi etirazlar var, status-kvo qorunub saxlan\u0131r, onlar eni\u015f\u0259 ged\u0259n kimi qaykalar daha b\u0259rk s\u0131x\u0131lacaq.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -B\u0259lk\u0259 d\u0259, amma m\u0259n etiraz h\u0259r\u0259kat\u0131n\u0131n eni\u015f\u0259 ged\u0259c\u0259yini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcr\u0259m. O, y\u0259qin ki sad\u0259c\u0259 \u015f\u0259klini d\u0259yi\u015fmi\u015f olacaq. Ax\u0131 indi Belarusda ba\u015f ver\u0259nl\u0259ri he\u00e7 iki h\u0259ft\u0259 bundan \u0259vv\u0259l s\u00f6yl\u0259m\u0259k olmurdu. Bu s\u0259b\u0259bd\u0259n sonra ba\u015f ver\u0259nl\u0259ri d\u0259 \u00f6nc\u0259d\u0259n bilm\u0259k olmur, \u00e7\u00fcnki Belarusda h\u0259r g\u00fcn n\u0259s\u0259 olur. El\u0259 bu g\u00fcn Belteleradio \u015firk\u0259tind\u0259 m\u0259\u015fhur \u201cB\u00f6y\u00fck \u015f\u0259h\u0259rd\u0259 g\u00fcn\u201d verili\u015finin komandas\u0131 tam hey\u0259ti il\u0259 istefa verdi. Sistemin daxilind\u0259 \u00fcfiqi v\u0259 \u015faquli par\u00e7alanma gedir. Onun n\u0259 q\u0259d\u0259r davam ed\u0259c\u0259yi h\u0259l\u0259 ki m\u0259lum deyil, amma ba\u015f verdiyi a\u015fkard\u0131r.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Amma h\u0259r \u015fey n\u0259 d\u0259r\u0259c\u0259d\u0259 ciddidir? Fakt odur ki, sistemd\u0259 y\u00fcks\u0259k v\u0259zif\u0259 tutanlar\u0131n aras\u0131nda Pavel Latu\u015fkodan savay\u0131 n\u0259inki he\u00e7 k\u0259s etiraza qo\u015fulmay\u0131b, h\u0259tta i\u015fd\u0259n \u00e7\u0131xmay\u0131b.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -M\u0259lumatlara g\u00f6r\u0259, onlar i\u015fd\u0259n \u00e7\u0131xa bilmirl\u0259r, amma m\u0259murlar\u0131n v\u0259 g\u00fcc strukturlar\u0131 \u0259m\u0259kda\u015flar\u0131n\u0131n aras\u0131ndan biziml\u0259 \u0259laq\u0259y\u0259 gir\u0259nl\u0259r var. Nazirl\u0259rl\u0259 \u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcz \u0259laq\u0259 saxlama\u011fa \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015f\u0131q, lakin biz\u0259 m\u0259h\u0259l qoymay\u0131blar. Dig\u0259rl\u0259ri is\u0259 deyir: \u201cSiz ki h\u0259r \u015feyi ba\u015fa d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcrs\u00fcn\u00fcz, biz tamamil\u0259 sizin t\u0259r\u0259finizd\u0259yik, bir \u015fey ba\u015f ver\u0259n kimi sizinl\u0259 olaca\u011f\u0131q\u201d.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -N\u0259 ba\u015f ver\u0259c\u0259k ki?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Rejim \u00e7\u00f6k\u0259c\u0259k. M\u0259n \u00f6z \u00e7\u0131x\u0131\u015flar\u0131mda da bu haqda a\u00e7\u0131q s\u00f6yl\u0259yir\u0259m: m\u0259hz indi bunu etm\u0259k m\u00fcmk\u00fcnd\u00fcr. Ayd\u0131nd\u0131r ki, onlar bir t\u0259r\u0259fd\u0259n qorxurlar, dig\u0259r t\u0259r\u0259fd\u0259ns\u0259 sad\u0259c\u0259 bu \u0259z\u0259n sistemd\u0259n ba\u015fqas\u0131n\u0131 tan\u0131m\u0131rlar. Ax\u0131 onlar\u0131n ham\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 h\u0259mi\u015f\u0259 u\u015faq kimi t\u0259nbeh edirl\u0259r. Odur ki, onlara add\u0131m atma\u011f\u0131 v\u0259 azad olma\u011f\u0131 t\u0259klif ed\u0259nd\u0259 \u00f6zl\u0259rini buna haz\u0131r hiss etmirl\u0259r. H\u0259r\u00e7\u0259nd m\u0259murlar\u0131n v\u0259 g\u00fcc strukturlar\u0131 \u0259m\u0259kda\u015flar\u0131n\u0131n orta t\u0259rkibind\u0259 bu art\u0131q trend\u0259 \u00e7evrilir v\u0259 biz bilirik ki, i\u015fd\u0259n \u00e7\u0131xm\u0131\u015f g\u00fcc strukturlar\u0131 \u0259m\u0259kda\u015flar\u0131n\u0131 d\u0259st\u0259kl\u0259y\u0259n v\u0259t\u0259nda\u015f f\u0259allar\u0131na mind\u0259n art\u0131q \u0259riz\u0259 g\u0259lib. Bu i\u015fl\u0259yir, sistem \u00e7at verib.\n<\/p>\n

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\n Mariya Kolesnikova, Svetlana Tixanovskaya, Veronika Sepkalo
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\n -Amma i\u015fd\u0259n \u00e7\u0131xan v\u0259 Latviyaya getm\u0259y\u0259 c\u0259hd ed\u0259n Ostapovi\u00e7i Rusiyada saxlay\u0131blar v\u0259 Minsk\u0259 t\u0259hvil verm\u0259y\u0259 haz\u0131rla\u015f\u0131rlar (m\u00fcsahib\u0259d\u0259n bir g\u00fcn sonra m\u0259lum oldu ki, Ostapovi\u00e7i gizli \u015f\u0259kild\u0259 Pkovdan Belarusa g\u0259tiribl\u0259r \u2013 m\u00fcxbirin qeydi).
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -H\u0259, bu haqda el\u0259 indic\u0259 \u00f6yr\u0259ndim. Biz Rusiya K\u0130V-n\u0259 b\u0259yanat ver\u0259c\u0259yik. Hesab edirik ki, bu, Belarusun daxili i\u015fidir v\u0259 \u0259g\u0259r adama burda ba\u015f ver\u0259nl\u0259r\u0259 g\u00f6r\u0259 m\u00fcdafi\u0259 laz\u0131md\u0131rsa, Rusiya Federasiyas\u0131 bu imkan\u0131 ona yaratmal\u0131d\u0131r.\n<\/p>\n

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\n Tixanovskayaya d\u0259st\u0259k aksiyas\u0131ndan
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\n -B\u0259yanat verm\u0259yiniz \u00e7ox yax\u015f\u0131d\u0131r, lakin Belarus h\u00f6kum\u0259tinin m\u00fcmk\u00fcn cavab t\u0259dbirl\u0259rini d\u0259 qiym\u0259tl\u0259ndirm\u0259m\u0259k laz\u0131m deyil.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -\u018flb\u0259tt\u0259. Son d\u00f6rd g\u00fcnd\u0259 yeni trend meydana g\u0259lib. Bu g\u00fcn Jlobin v\u0259 ya Jodinoya g\u0259lir\u0259m, orda d\u00fcz qar\u015f\u0131mda avtobusdan \u0259ll\u0259rind\u0259 q\u0131rm\u0131z\u0131-ya\u015f\u0131l bayraql\u0131 adamlar d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcr. Onlar \u00e7ox aqressivdirl\u0259r, var-g\u00fccl\u0259ri il\u0259 ba\u011f\u0131r\u0131rlar, t\u0259xribat yaratamaq ist\u0259yirl\u0259r. Bu, tamamil\u0259 yeni g\u00fcnd\u0259mdir, sistem \u00f6z-\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc m\u00fcdafi\u0259 etm\u0259y\u0259 \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131r.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -B\u0259s bu adamlar kimdir?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Bu, onun n\u00fcv\u0259 elektorat\u0131d\u0131r. H\u0259min adamlar\u0131n onu s\u0259mimi-q\u0259lbd\u0259n sevdikl\u0259rin\u0259 tamamil\u0259 \u0259min\u0259m. V\u0259 bu normald\u0131r. Amma onlar Luka\u015fenkonu q\u0259rib\u0259 bir nifr\u0259t hissi il\u0259 sevirl\u0259r. Bu adamlar\u0131 dinl\u0259dikd\u0259 ba\u015fa d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcrs\u0259n ki, onlar \u00f6z sevimli liderl\u0259ri haqda deyil, hans\u0131sa bir nifr\u0259t duy\u011fusu haqda dan\u0131\u015f\u0131rlar. Halbuki biz bir araya g\u0259l\u0259nd\u0259 bir-birimizi g\u00f6rd\u00fcy\u00fcm\u00fcz\u0259 nec\u0259 sevinm\u0259yimiz, \u015f\u0259xsi l\u0259yaq\u0259t hissimiz v\u0259 h\u0259mr\u0259yliyimizin bizi nec\u0259 xo\u015fb\u0259xt etm\u0259si bar\u0259d\u0259 dan\u0131\u015f\u0131r\u0131q. H\u0259r\u00e7\u0259nd k\u00fc\u00e7\u0259y\u0259 \u00e7\u0131xanlara da, el\u0259 biz\u0259 d\u0259 qorxuludur, amma biz ham\u0131m\u0131z bu qorxunun \u00f6hd\u0259sind\u0259n g\u0259lir v\u0259 daha azad, daha xo\u015fb\u0259xt oluruq (g\u00fcl\u00fcr). Avtobusda ged\u0259nl\u0259rs\u0259 daha \u00e7ox nifr\u0259t edirl\u0259r. Bu, he\u00e7 siyas\u0259t d\u0259 deyil, bu, n\u0259s\u0259 ba\u015fqa bir sah\u0259nin m\u00f6vzusudur.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Amma b\u00fct\u00fcn bunlar\u0131n ax\u0131r\u0131nda n\u0259 dayan\u0131r?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -\u00dcmid edir\u0259m ki, b\u00fct\u00fcn bunlar\u0131n ax\u0131r\u0131nda xeyrin \u015f\u0259r \u00fcz\u0259rind\u0259 q\u0259l\u0259b\u0259si dayan\u0131r. Bunun uzun bir proses oldu\u011funu ham\u0131m\u0131z anlay\u0131r\u0131q. Bu, v\u0259t\u0259nda\u015f c\u0259miyy\u0259tinin, onun mexanizm v\u0259 al\u0259tl\u0259rinin qurulmas\u0131 prosesidir v\u0259 o h\u0259l\u0259 t\u0259z\u0259 ba\u015flay\u0131b. B\u00fct\u00fcn bunlar uzun \u00e7\u0259k\u0259c\u0259k, m\u0259nim he\u00e7 bir ill\u00fcziyam yoxdur. Ham\u0131m\u0131za \u00e7\u0259tin olacaq v\u0259 h\u0259l\u0259 \u00e7ox i\u015f g\u00f6rm\u0259liyik.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Yay\u0131n sonunad\u0259k \u00e7atd\u0131rmayacaqs\u0131n\u0131z?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Bir h\u0259ft\u0259y\u0259 \u00e7atd\u0131rar\u0131q (g\u00fcl\u00fcr). \u015e\u00fcbh\u0259siz ki, \u00e7ox ist\u0259y\u0259rdim, amma m\u0259n realist\u0259m v\u0259 m\u0259n tarixi bilir\u0259m. Bu c\u00fcr \u015feyl\u0259r he\u00e7 n\u0259d\u0259n ba\u015f vermir. Amma dig\u0259r t\u0259r\u0259fd\u0259n, \u201cqara qu qu\u015flar\u0131\u201d var v\u0259 indi bizd\u0259 ba\u015f ver\u0259nl\u0259r el\u0259 son yar\u0131m ild\u0259 onlar\u0131n Belarusa h\u00fccumu say\u0259sind\u0259dir. COV\u0130D-d\u0259n, 31-ci yol x\u0259rit\u0259sind\u0259n, iqtisadi b\u00f6hrandan, neft b\u00f6hran\u0131ndan tutmu\u015f se\u00e7kil\u0259r\u0259, \u0259sas opponentl\u0259rin tutulmas\u0131 v\u0259 qeydiyyatdan ke\u00e7m\u0259m\u0259sin\u0259d\u0259k. Amma m\u0259n \u201cqara qu qu\u015flar\u0131\u201dna \u00fcmid b\u0259sl\u0259mir\u0259m, m\u0259n sad\u0259c\u0259 h\u0259r g\u00fcn beli \u0259lim\u0259 g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcb qaz\u0131ram. \u00d6z balaca i\u015fimi g\u00f6r\u00fcr\u0259m (g\u00fcl\u00fcr).\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Sizc\u0259, insanlar daha yar\u0131m il v\u0259 ya bir il \u00e7\u0131xacaqlar? M\u0259nc\u0259, bu m\u00fcmk\u00fcn deyil…
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n Etiraz \u00f6z \u015f\u0259klini d\u0259yi\u015f\u0259 bil\u0259r, iqtisadi ola bil\u0259r. B\u0259lk\u0259 d\u0259 insanlar d\u00f6vl\u0259t m\u00fc\u0259ssis\u0259l\u0259rind\u0259 istehsal olunmu\u015f m\u0259hsullar\u0131 almaqdan imtina ed\u0259c\u0259kl\u0259r, ya da vergi \u00f6d\u0259m\u0259y\u0259c\u0259kl\u0259r. A\u011fl\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n ucundan bel\u0259 ke\u00e7ir\u0259 bilm\u0259diyimiz variantlar ola bil\u0259r. Uduzaca\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcr\u0259m, \u00e7\u00fcnki art\u0131q udmu\u015fuq.\n<\/p>\n

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\n Veronika Sepkalo, Svetlana Tixanovskaya v\u0259 Mariya Kolesnikova
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\n
\n -\u00d6t\u0259n bazar bel\u0259 hiss edirdiniz: \u201cv\u0259ssalam, art\u0131q q\u0259l\u0259b\u0259dir?\u201d
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -M\u0259nd\u0259 bu c\u00fcr hiss avqustun 9-u ax\u015fam olmu\u015fdu, biz s\u0259hih r\u0259q\u0259ml\u0259r ver\u0259n sah\u0259d\u0259n ilk z\u0259ngi alanda, ax\u0131 onda internet yox idi. Bu, bizim \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn q\u0259l\u0259b\u0259 idi, \u00e7\u00fcnki 26 il \u0259rzind\u0259 ilk d\u0259f\u0259 (Luka\u015fenkonun hakimiyy\u0259td\u0259 oldu\u011fu m\u00fcdd\u0259t) d\u00fcr\u00fcst insanlar tap\u0131ld\u0131lar v\u0259 el\u0259 h\u0259min andan h\u0259r \u015feyin ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131 ayd\u0131n oldu. Bundan bel\u0259 sistemd\u0259 \u201cyox\u201d dey\u0259n birisi h\u0259mi\u015f\u0259 olacaq. Bu prosesi art\u0131q dayand\u0131rmaq m\u00fcmk\u00fcn deyil.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Amma sonra g\u00fcc strukturlar\u0131n\u0131n \u0259m\u0259kda\u015flar\u0131 t\u0259r\u0259find\u0259n \u00fc\u00e7 g\u00fcn dalbadal terror oldu. O zaman \u00f6t\u0259n bazar bunun art\u0131q q\u0259l\u0259b\u0259 oldu\u011fu, hakimiyy\u0259tin \u00f6z xo\u015funa ged\u0259c\u0259yi hissi vard\u0131m\u0131?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Tam xo\u015fb\u0259xtlik, belaruslar\u0131n \u00e7ox g\u00fccl\u00fc \u015f\u0259kild\u0259 d\u0259yi\u015fm\u0259si duy\u011fusu vard\u0131. O g\u00fcn\u0259d\u0259k ham\u0131 bilirdi ki, bu, he\u00e7 vaxt d\u0259yi\u015fm\u0259y\u0259c\u0259k, amma biz ham\u0131m\u0131z bir-birimizi, n\u0259 q\u0259d\u0259r \u00e7ox oldu\u011fumuzu, zibili nec\u0259 y\u0131\u011fd\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131, g\u00fcl l\u0259kl\u0259rini tapdalamad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131, 200 min oldu\u011fumuzu, adamlar\u0131n skamyaya \u00e7\u0131xark\u0259n ayaqqab\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 nec\u0259 \u00e7\u0131xard\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6r\u0259nd\u0259 q\u0259l\u0259b\u0259ni daxilimizd\u0259 hiss etdik, sonra xaricd\u0259 d\u0259 h\u0259r \u015fey d\u0259yi\u015f\u0259c\u0259k.\n<\/p>\n

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\n -2011-ci ild\u0259 Moskvada Bolotnaya meydan\u0131nda da \u00e7oxu xo\u015fb\u0259xt idi, lakin bu he\u00e7 n\u0259y\u0259 g\u0259tirib \u00e7\u0131xarmad\u0131.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -\u00c7\u00fcnki bu, t\u0259kc\u0259 Moskvada idi, amma Belarusda p\u0259rak\u0259nd\u0259 m\u00fcqavim\u0259tdir, etiraz dal\u011fas\u0131 h\u0259r yer\u0259 \u2013 Minskin m\u0259rk\u0259zind\u0259n tutmu\u015f \u015f\u0259h\u0259r \u0259traf\u0131na, b\u00f6y\u00fck v\u0259 ki\u00e7ik \u015f\u0259h\u0259rl\u0259r\u0259, h\u0259tta k\u0259ndl\u0259r\u0259 yay\u0131l\u0131b. B\u00f6y\u00fck f\u0259rqdir. \u018fyal\u0259td\u0259 bir \u00e7ox adam\u0131n Luka\u015fenkonun n\u00fcv\u0259 elektorat\u0131 deyil, bizim elektorat\u0131m\u0131za \u00e7evrilm\u0259si h\u0259m\u00e7inin f\u0259rqli v\u0259 keyfiyy\u0259tli q\u0259l\u0259b\u0259dir. Bu il\u0259d\u0259k o h\u0259mi\u015f\u0259 udub, 80% olmasa da, 50%-d\u0259n \u00e7ox olub v\u0259 he\u00e7 k\u0259sin bununla ba\u011fl\u0131 ill\u00fcziyas\u0131 olmay\u0131b. \u0130ndi is\u0259 h\u0259r \u015fey ba\u015fqa c\u00fcrd\u00fcr.\n<\/p>\n

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\n Foto: Evgeni Maloletka
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\n -Sanki etiraz dal\u011fas\u0131n\u0131 siz v\u0259 ya Koordinasiya \u015euras\u0131 deyil, \u201cNexta\u201d teleqram-kanal\u0131 idar\u0259 edir. Onun apar\u0131c\u0131lar\u0131 sabah iki milyonluq auditoriyas\u0131n\u0131n n\u0259 etm\u0259li oldu\u011funu yaz\u0131rlar, sonra h\u0259r \u015fey el\u0259 bu c\u00fcr d\u0259 ba\u015f verir. Bu normald\u0131r?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -El\u0259 t\u0259\u015f\u0259bb\u00fcsl\u0259r var ki, onlar\u0131 he\u00e7 teleqram-kanallar i\u015f\u0131qland\u0131rmay\u0131b, y\u0259ni insanlar\u0131n \u00f6zl\u0259ri t\u0259\u015fkilatlan\u0131rlar. M\u0259n he\u00e7 bu haqda o q\u0259d\u0259r d\u0259 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u0259mi\u015f\u0259m. H\u0259l\u0259 \u00fc\u00e7 ay \u0259vv\u0259l Babariko il\u0259 bel\u0259 q\u0259rara g\u0259ldik ki, biz he\u00e7 n\u0259yi t\u0259\u015fkil etmirik, etiraz\u0131n liderl\u0259ri olma\u011fa \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131r\u0131q. Biz \u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fc tamamil\u0259 ba\u015fqa c\u00fcr g\u00f6r\u00fcr\u00fck. D\u00fcz s\u00f6z\u00fcmd\u00fcr. M\u0259n bunun q\u0259rib\u0259 s\u0259l\u0259ndiyini anlay\u0131ram, el\u0259 bu s\u0259b\u0259bd\u0259n biz he\u00e7 k\u0259si he\u00e7 yer\u0259 \u00e7a\u011f\u0131rm\u0131r\u0131q. Avqustun 9-u sah\u0259l\u0259r\u0259 \u00e7a\u011f\u0131r\u0131\u015f istisnad\u0131r.\n<\/p>\n

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\n -Siz ax\u0131 el\u0259 indi d\u0259 etiraz\u0131n liderisiniz, \u00f6lk\u0259boyu b\u00fct\u00fcn aksiyalarda i\u015ftirak edirsiniz.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -M\u0259n t\u0259\u015f\u0259bb\u00fcs g\u00f6st\u0259rmir\u0259m, sad\u0259c\u0259 d\u0259st\u0259y\u0259 ehtiyac duyan insanlar\u0131n oldu\u011funu g\u00f6r\u00fcr\u0259m, bunu ed\u0259 bil\u0259c\u0259yimi anlay\u0131ram v\u0259 edir\u0259m. Bunun d\u0259linin say\u0131qlamas\u0131 kimi s\u0259sl\u0259ndiyini anlay\u0131ram, amma fakt faktl\u0131\u011f\u0131nda qal\u0131r (g\u00fcl\u00fcr).\n<\/p>\n

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\n -\u201cNexta\u201d sabah Luka\u015fenkonun iqam\u0259tgah\u0131n\u0131 almaq laz\u0131m oldu\u011funu yazsa, g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcr, \u00e7oxu ged\u0259c\u0259k. Y\u0259ni protest faktiki olaraq dig\u0259r t\u0259r\u0259fd\u0259 olan adamlar\u0131n \u0259lind\u0259dir. \u00c7ox \u015fey ba\u015f ver\u0259 bil\u0259r, b\u0259lk\u0259 onlardan akkauntu da o\u011furlayarlar.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Bu m\u00f6vzunu m\u00fczakir\u0259 etm\u0259k ist\u0259mir\u0259m. Birc\u0259 onu deyim ki, biz \u00fc\u00e7l\u00fckd\u0259 (Tixanovskaya v\u0259 Sepkalo il\u0259) birl\u0259\u015f\u0259nd\u0259 \u015f\u0259xsi m\u0259qs\u0259dim h\u0259r bir insan\u0131n ba\u015f ver\u0259nl\u0259r\u0259 g\u00f6r\u0259 m\u0259suliyy\u0259t da\u015f\u0131ya bilm\u0259si idi. O, lider ola bil\u0259r. Ham\u0131 Kolesnikovan\u0131n lider oldu\u011funu hesab edir, lakin h\u0259r k\u0259s Kolesnikova ola bil\u0259r, h\u0259r k\u0259s n\u0259s\u0259 ed\u0259 v\u0259 t\u0259\u015f\u0259bb\u00fcs\u00fc \u00f6z \u00fcz\u0259rin\u0259 g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u0259 bil\u0259r. Yet\u0259r ki, g\u00f6zl\u0259diyimiz g\u0259l\u0259c\u0259k g\u0259lsin. \u0130deyam\u0131z budur. Bu kanallar bo\u015f yer\u0259 peyda olmay\u0131b, bu, ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131za kosmosdan d\u00fc\u015fm\u0259y\u0259n konkret insanlar\u0131n t\u0259\u015f\u0259bb\u00fcs\u00fcd\u00fcr. Onlar\u0131n bu i\u015fl\u0259 m\u0259\u015f\u011ful olmalar\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn \u00f6z t\u0259l\u0259batlar\u0131 var. Onlar belaruslard\u0131r v\u0259 burda n\u0259 ba\u015f verdiyini v\u0259 insanlar\u0131 birl\u0259\u015fdirm\u0259k \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn n\u0259 etm\u0259k laz\u0131m oldu\u011funu yax\u015f\u0131 bilirl\u0259r. Bu, onlarda al\u0131n\u0131r v\u0259 \u0259g\u0259r bu i\u015fl\u0259yirs\u0259, dem\u0259li, d\u00fczg\u00fcn qurulmu\u015f mexanizmdir. Ba\u015fa d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcrs\u00fcn\u00fcz, m\u0259n he\u00e7 bu i\u015fl\u0259 m\u0259\u015f\u011ful olan adamlar\u0131 tan\u0131m\u0131ram. Bizim al\u0259tl\u0259rimiz f\u0259rqlidir, lakin qlobal m\u0259qs\u0259dimiz eynidir. Odur ki, burda b\u00f6y\u00fck t\u0259hl\u00fck\u0259 g\u00f6rm\u00fcr\u0259m, ax\u0131 insanlar hara, n\u0259 vaxt v\u0259 niy\u0259 \u00e7\u0131xd\u0131qlar\u0131n\u0131 bilirl\u0259r.\n<\/p>\n

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\n -Moskvada m\u00fcxalif\u0259t deyir ki, n\u0259 q\u0259d\u0259r ki az\u0131q, bir \u015fey etm\u0259kd\u0259 \u00e7\u0259tinlik \u00e7\u0259kirik. N\u0259 vaxt ki k\u00fc\u00e7\u0259y\u0259 milyon, ya da he\u00e7 olmasa 500 min adam \u00e7\u0131xacaq, rejim d\u0259rhal \u00e7\u00f6k\u0259c\u0259k. Minskd\u0259 \u0259halinin say\u0131na uy\u011fun t\u0259xmin\u0259n el\u0259 bu q\u0259d\u0259r adam g\u00f6rd\u00fck, lakin h\u00f6kum\u0259t \u00e7\u00f6km\u0259di. B\u0259lk\u0259 daha f\u0259al t\u0259dbirl\u0259r g\u00f6r\u00fclm\u0259li idi?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -R\u0259q\u0259ml\u0259rin rol oynad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlay\u0131ram, amma bunun marafon oldu\u011funu da d\u0259qiq bilir\u0259m. \u0130ndi m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259 ilk kimin \u0259s\u0259bl\u0259rinin tar\u0131ma \u00e7\u0259kil\u0259c\u0259yidir. Biz\u0259 qar\u015f\u0131 cinay\u0259t i\u015fi a\u00e7\u0131rlar, he\u00e7 k\u0259s\u0259 k\u00fc\u00e7\u0259y\u0259 \u00e7\u0131xma\u011fa icaz\u0259 verm\u0259y\u0259c\u0259kl\u0259ri haqda b\u0259yanat verirl\u0259r. Onlar t\u0259zyiq g\u00f6st\u0259rirl\u0259r, bizs\u0259 buna r\u0259\u011fm\u0259n k\u00fc\u00e7\u0259y\u0259 \u00e7\u0131x\u0131r\u0131q. Bu, fiziki m\u00fcbariz\u0259 deyil, bu, sars\u0131lmazl\u0131q m\u00fcbariz\u0259sidir \u2013 ilk kim d\u0259li olacaq. Onlar \u00e7ox ist\u0259yirl\u0259r ki, m\u0259n \u015etutqarta gedim. M\u0259n\u0259 guya Moskvadan \u015etutqarta biletl\u0259rimin skrinini g\u00f6nd\u0259rirl\u0259r, orda is\u0259 he\u00e7 soyad\u0131m d\u00fczg\u00fcn yaz\u0131lmay\u0131b. Bu, psixoloji m\u00fcbariz\u0259nin elementl\u0259ridir.\n<\/p>\n

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\n -Burda Ukrayna t\u0259cr\u00fcb\u0259si neqativ m\u00fcbariz\u0259 kimi q\u0259bul olunur, amma art\u0131q m\u00fcqayis\u0259 aparmaq olar, ax\u0131 art\u0131q Minskd\u0259 d\u0259 insanlar h\u0259lak olub. Kiyevd\u0259 adamlar daha q\u0259tiyy\u0259tl\u0259 h\u0259r\u0259k\u0259t edibl\u0259r, y\u0259qin el\u0259 buna g\u00f6r\u0259 z\u0259f\u0259r \u00e7al\u0131blar?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -M\u00fcqayis\u0259 d\u00fczg\u00fcn deyil, \u00e7\u00fcnki Ukraynada art\u0131q alt\u0131nc\u0131 prezidentdir, bizd\u0259 is\u0259 biridir. Ukraynal\u0131lar bilirl\u0259r ki, \u0259vv\u0259l bir, sonra dig\u0259r prezident se\u00e7m\u0259k olar. Onlarda olan hiss bizd\u0259 h\u0259l\u0259 yeni formala\u015fma\u011fa ba\u015flay\u0131r. \u00dcst\u0259lik Maydan \u00f6lk\u0259nin daxilind\u0259 v\u0259 xaricind\u0259 geosiyasi v\u0259ziyy\u0259tl\u0259 \u0259laq\u0259li idi, bizd\u0259 is\u0259 h\u0259r \u015fey ba\u015fqa c\u00fcrd\u00fcr. \u0130\u00e7\u0259rid\u0259n soru\u015fun g\u00f6r\u0259k orda kimis\u0259 Rusiya il\u0259 \u0259laq\u0259l\u0259rin \u0259slind\u0259 nec\u0259 olmas\u0131 maraqland\u0131r\u0131rm\u0131? Onlar cavab\u0131nda siz\u0259 g\u00f6zl\u0259rini b\u0259r\u0259ld\u0259c\u0259kl\u0259r: \u201cSiz n\u0259 dan\u0131\u015f\u0131rs\u0131n\u0131z, bizd\u0259 adamlar\u0131 qar\u0259t edirl\u0259r\u201d.\n<\/p>\n

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\n -Amma ham\u0131 sizd\u0259n el\u0259-hey bunu soru\u015fur.
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\n -M\u0259nd\u0259n h\u0259r k\u0259s soru\u015fur v\u0259 m\u0259n el\u0259-hey cavab verir\u0259m, amma m\u0259ni he\u00e7 kim e\u015fitmir.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Amma yen\u0259 d\u0259 hans\u0131sa zorak\u0131 variant m\u00fcmk\u00fcnd\u00fcrm\u00fc? Siz bu sualdan qa\u00e7\u0131rs\u0131n\u0131z…
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\n -Qa\u00e7m\u0131ram, sad\u0259c\u0259 belaruslar \u0259ll\u0259rind\u0259 \u00e7\u0259ng\u0259l h\u00f6kum\u0259t binas\u0131n\u0131 m\u00fchasir\u0259y\u0259 alan insanlar deyil.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Erm\u0259nistan\u0131n Ba\u015f naziri etiraz aksiyalar\u0131ndan sonra \u00f6z\u00fc getdi, lakin Luka\u015fenko \u00f6z\u00fc getm\u0259y\u0259c\u0259k. Pat v\u0259ziyy\u0259ti al\u0131n\u0131r: h\u0259r g\u00fcn k\u00fc\u00e7\u0259l\u0259ri dola\u015f\u0131b h\u0259r \u015feyin yax\u015f\u0131 olaca\u011f\u0131na \u00fcmid b\u0259sl\u0259m\u0259k olar, lakin g\u0259lin real d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u0259k, bu, i\u015f\u0259 ke\u00e7m\u0259y\u0259c\u0259k.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Siz\u0259 deyir\u0259m ki, \u0259cdadlar\u0131 partizan olan belaruslar y\u0259qin ki m\u00fcxt\u0259lif etiraz v\u0259 m\u00fcqavim\u0259t formalar\u0131 icad ed\u0259c\u0259kl\u0259r. Bu, b\u0259lk\u0259 d\u0259 uzun \u00e7\u0259k\u0259c\u0259k. Amma i\u015f\u0259 ke\u00e7\u0259c\u0259yin\u0259 tam \u0259min\u0259m. Bird\u0259n yen\u0259 d\u0259 i\u015f\u0259 ke\u00e7m\u0259s\u0259 v\u0259 Luka\u015fenko b\u00fct\u00fcn qaykalar\u0131 s\u0131xsa, sad\u0259c\u0259 h\u0259r k\u0259s burdan \u00e7\u0131x\u0131b ged\u0259c\u0259k. \u0130lk biznes ged\u0259c\u0259k, nec\u0259 ki getm\u0259y\u0259 ba\u015flay\u0131b. \u00c7\u00fcnki m\u0259hz biznesmenl\u0259r birl\u0259\u015fm\u0259k v\u0259 bir-birini d\u0259st\u0259kl\u0259m\u0259k laz\u0131m oldu\u011funu anlay\u0131blar.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Bu ki lap pis ssenaridir, h\u0259tta se\u00e7kil\u0259rd\u0259n sonra he\u00e7 k\u0259sin etiraz etm\u0259y\u0259c\u0259yi variantdan da pisdir.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -B\u0259li, burda he\u00e7 kim qalmayacaq, m\u0259hz buna g\u00f6r\u0259 meydanda b\u00fct\u00fcn t\u0259b\u0259q\u0259l\u0259rd\u0259n olan adamlar\u0131 \u2013 h\u0259m milyon\u00e7ular\u0131, h\u0259m d\u0259 \u015faxta\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131 g\u00f6r\u0259 bil\u0259rsiniz. Ham\u0131 bunu yax\u015f\u0131 ba\u015fa d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcr, balaca \u015f\u0259h\u0259rl\u0259rd\u0259 d\u0259 ya\u015fayan adamlar da anlay\u0131rlar ki, \u0259g\u0259r he\u00e7 n\u0259 d\u0259yi\u015fm\u0259s\u0259, \u00f6vladlar\u0131 \u00e7\u0131x\u0131b ged\u0259c\u0259k. Odur ki, h\u0259r k\u0259s t\u0259slim olmama\u011f\u0131 v\u0259 ax\u0131rad\u0259k getm\u0259yi q\u0259rara al\u0131b.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -\u00dcmumiyy\u0259tl\u0259, m\u00fcxalif\u0259tin Koordinasiya \u015euras\u0131 niy\u0259 yarad\u0131l\u0131b ki? Bizd\u0259, Moskvada da onu n\u0259 vaxtsa yaratm\u0131\u015fd\u0131lar, h\u0259min add\u0131m tam iflasa g\u0259tirib \u00e7\u0131xard\u0131, burda is\u0259 bu q\u0259d\u0259r adam\u0131n aya\u011fa qalxd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 n\u0259z\u0259r\u0259 alsaq, onu yaratmaq n\u0259y\u0259 laz\u0131m idi ki?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Biz m\u00fcxalif\u0259tin deyil, \u00e7oxlu\u011fun koordinasiya \u015furas\u0131y\u0131q.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Q\u0259\u015f\u0259ng s\u0259sl\u0259nir, lakin m\u00fcxalif\u0259t d\u0259 \u00e7oxluq ola bil\u0259r, m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259 ax\u0131 r\u0259q\u0259md\u0259 deyil, onun kim\u0259s\u0259 m\u00fcxalif olmas\u0131ndad\u0131r.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -B\u0259li, sad\u0259c\u0259 bizd\u0259 d\u00f6vl\u0259t xalq\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7oxlu\u011funa qar\u015f\u0131d\u0131r. He\u00e7 n\u0259 etm\u0259m\u0259k olar, o zaman d\u0259qiq he\u00e7 n\u0259 al\u0131nmayacaq. Belarusun problemi onda idi ki, biz bir-birimizl\u0259 son \u00fc\u00e7 ayda son 26 ild\u0259n daha \u00e7ox tan\u0131\u015f olduq. \u0130nsanlar MSK-ya \u015fikay\u0259t\u0259 g\u0259l\u0259nd\u0259, h\u0259mr\u0259ylik z\u0259nciri quranda bir-birini g\u00f6rd\u00fcl\u0259r. Koordinasiya \u015euras\u0131 birl\u0259\u015fdirm\u0259y\u0259 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fd\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z m\u00fcxt\u0259lif qrup v\u0259 c\u0259miyy\u0259tl\u0259rin konsolidasiyas\u0131d\u0131r. N\u0259 \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn? \u018fvv\u0259lc\u0259 \u015furan\u0131n, sonra da v\u0259t\u0259nda\u015f c\u0259miyy\u0259tinin daxilind\u0259 al\u0259tl\u0259ri nec\u0259 qurma\u011f\u0131 anlamaq \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn. \u018flimizd\u0259 haz\u0131rda h\u0259r k\u0259si narahat ed\u0259n \u00fc\u00e7 m\u00f6vzuda \u2013 zorak\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131n dayand\u0131r\u0131lmas\u0131 v\u0259 rejimi cinay\u0259tin\u0259 g\u00f6r\u0259 c\u0259zaland\u0131rmaq, b\u00fct\u00fcn siyasi m\u0259hbuslara azadl\u0131q, yeni d\u00fcr\u00fcst se\u00e7kil\u0259r \u2013 q\u0259tnam\u0259 var. \u00dc\u00e7 olduqca ayd\u0131n m\u0259qs\u0259d. Yeni d\u00fcr\u00fcst se\u00e7kil\u0259rin ba\u015f tutmas\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn n\u0259 etm\u0259li oldu\u011fumuz he\u00e7 birimiz bilmirik. Biz h\u00fcquqi olaraq bunu ba\u015fa d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcr\u00fck, lakin h\u00f6kum\u0259tin \u00f6z xalq\u0131 il\u0259 dialoqa getm\u0259si \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn n\u0259 etm\u0259li oldu\u011fumuzu bilmirik. Biz bunu nec\u0259 etm\u0259k m\u00fcmk\u00fcn oldu\u011funu anlama\u011fa \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131r\u0131q, m\u00fcxt\u0259lif yollar axtar\u0131r\u0131q, Rusiya v\u0259 A\u0130-na bu dailoqu qurmaqda yard\u0131m\u00e7\u0131 olmalar\u0131n\u0131 t\u0259klif edirik. Biz \u0259vv\u0259l-ax\u0131r h\u00f6kum\u0259tin tranzit olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u0259qiq bilirik, bunun tez ba\u015f verm\u0259sini ist\u0259yirik, yox, \u0259g\u0259r gec olsa, biz buna daha yax\u015f\u0131 haz\u0131rla\u015faca\u011f\u0131q. M\u0259n real m\u0259qs\u0259dl\u0259r t\u0259r\u0259fdar\u0131yam \u2013 bizim h\u0259r k\u0259si devirm\u0259k, h\u0259r k\u0259si i\u015fd\u0259n \u00e7\u0131xarmaq v\u0259 h\u0259r k\u0259si m\u0259hb\u0259s\u0259 salmaq kimi m\u0259qs\u0259dimiz yoxdur.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -M\u0259qs\u0259d yoxdur, amma sizi art\u0131q bunda g\u00fcnahland\u0131r\u0131blar, \u00f6z\u00fc d\u0259 onu \u015furas\u0131z etm\u0259k daha \u00e7\u0259tin olard\u0131. Bununla yana\u015f\u0131, z\u0259nnimc\u0259, bir struktur kimi K\u015e-n\u0131 yaratma\u011fa real z\u0259rur\u0259t yoxdur.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Siz h\u0259r \u015fey\u0259 \u00e7ox skeptik yana\u015f\u0131rs\u0131n\u0131z!\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -S\u00f6yl\u0259diyiniz jurnalistl\u0259r\u0259 xas \u00f6z\u0259llikdir, pe\u015f\u0259miz bunu t\u0259l\u0259b edir.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Ba\u015fa d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcr\u0259m, amma sizd\u0259 sanki daha bariz g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcr (g\u00fcl\u00fcr). Amma maraql\u0131d\u0131r! Biz etdikl\u0259rimizin m\u0259qs\u0259dy\u00f6nl\u00fc oldu\u011funu g\u00f6r\u00fcr\u00fck v\u0259 b\u00fct\u00fcn riskl\u0259rin f\u0259rqind\u0259yik. S\u0131naqdan ke\u00e7irm\u0259k he\u00e7 ke\u00e7irm\u0259m\u0259kd\u0259n daha yax\u015f\u0131d\u0131r. Belarusda biz n\u0259 partiya, n\u0259 d\u0259 ictimai h\u0259r\u0259kat\u0131 qeydiyyatdan ke\u00e7ir\u0259 bilm\u0259rik, odur ki, bizim leqal sah\u0259d\u0259 qalmaq \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn ba\u015fqa yolumuz yoxdur.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Sizd\u0259 ki h\u0259r yerd\u0259 birmandatl\u0131 se\u00e7kil\u0259rdir, partiyan\u0131n n\u0259 m\u0259nas\u0131 var ki?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -He\u00e7 olmasa ona g\u00f6r\u0259 ki, mediada g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u0259, ya da meydanlarda leqal t\u0259dbirl\u0259r t\u0259\u015fkil ed\u0259 bil\u0259k. Biz referendum ke\u00e7irm\u0259k t\u0259\u015f\u0259bb\u00fcs\u00fc ir\u0259li s\u00fcrd\u00fck v\u0259 be\u015f g\u00fcn \u0259rzind\u0259 t\u0259\u015f\u0259bb\u00fcs qrupumuza 14 min adam yaz\u0131ld\u0131. Lakin onun ke\u00e7irilm\u0259 m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259sin\u0259 yaln\u0131z yax\u0131n alt\u0131 ayda baxa bil\u0259rik, \u00e7\u00fcnki m\u00fcxt\u0259lif icaz\u0259l\u0259r almal\u0131y\u0131q, onlar\u0131 is\u0259 h\u0259tta bir il uzada bil\u0259rl\u0259r. Biz b\u00fct\u00fcn leqal yollardan istifad\u0259 edirik, media v\u0259 k\u00fctl\u0259 d\u0259 bizi hardasa qoruyur. Ax\u0131 ham\u0131n\u0131 bir yerd\u0259 m\u0259hb\u0259s\u0259 salmaq daha \u00e7\u0259tindir, el\u0259 deyilmi? Misal \u00e7\u0259kim. Biz Veronika v\u0259 Svetlana il\u0259 birl\u0259\u015fm\u0259zd\u0259n \u0259vv\u0259l m\u0259ni prokurorlu\u011fa \u00e7a\u011f\u0131rd\u0131lar. Onlardan prokurorlu\u011fa ged\u0259c\u0259yim vaxt\u0131 d\u0259yi\u015fm\u0259l\u0259rini xahi\u015f etdim, \u00e7\u00fcnki s\u0259h\u0259r birl\u0259\u015fm\u0259 m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259sini m\u00fczakir\u0259 etm\u0259k \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fm\u0259li idik. Biz bunu q\u0259rara alan kimi d\u0259rhal m\u0259tbuat konfrans\u0131 ke\u00e7irdik. Daha sonra prokurorlu\u011fa ora ged\u0259c\u0259yim m\u00fcdd\u0259tl\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131 z\u0259ng vuranda art\u0131q bu m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259 il\u0259 maraqlanmad\u0131qlar\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yl\u0259dil\u0259r. Dem\u0259li, bu i\u015fl\u0259yir! H\u0259r\u00e7\u0259nd ill\u00fcziya da ola bil\u0259r. (g\u00fcl\u00fcr)\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Siz ax\u0131 musiqi\u00e7isiniz…
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -H\u0259, n\u0259 olsun ki.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Niy\u0259 b\u00fct\u00fcn bunlarla m\u0259\u015f\u011ful olusunuz ki?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -M\u0259g\u0259r musiqi il\u0259 siyas\u0259t ba\u011fl\u0131 deyil?\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Nec\u0259?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Siz ciddisiniz?\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Yox, \u0259lb\u0259tt\u0259, h\u0259r \u015fey siyas\u0259tl\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131d\u0131r…
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Muqisi il\u0259 \u00e7ox s\u0131x ba\u011fl\u0131d\u0131r. S\u0259b\u0259bini s\u00f6yl\u0259yim (g\u00fcl\u00fcr)? \u018fg\u0259r m\u0259n senzuran\u0131n h\u00f6km s\u00fcrd\u00fcy\u00fc Belarusda inc\u0259s\u0259n\u0259tl\u0259 m\u0259\u015f\u011fulamsa, bunu nec\u0259 yax\u015f\u0131 ed\u0259 bil\u0259r\u0259m ki? \u015e\u0259xs\u0259n m\u0259n yarad\u0131c\u0131 adam kimi senzura alt\u0131nda i\u015fl\u0259y\u0259 bilmir\u0259m. He\u00e7 bir h\u0259qiqi s\u0259n\u0259t adam\u0131 bunu bacarm\u0131r.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Akademik musiqi il\u0259 senzura alt\u0131nda m\u0259\u015f\u011ful olmaq sanki daha asand\u0131r.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Siz Mosart\u0131 n\u0259z\u0259rd\u0259 tutursunuz? M\u0259n m\u00fcr\u0259kk\u0259b m\u00fcasir inc\u0259s\u0259n\u0259tl\u0259, m\u00fcasir musiqi il\u0259 m\u0259\u015f\u011ful oluram.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Ax\u0131 \u0259g\u0259r orda m\u0259tn yoxdursa, hans\u0131 siyasi ifad\u0259d\u0259n dan\u0131\u015fmaq olar ki?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -\u0130kinci d\u00fcnya m\u00fcharib\u0259sind\u0259n sonra m\u00fcasir musiqi ba\u015fdan ba\u015fa siyasi ifad\u0259dir. \u015eostakovi\u00e7, Prokofyev, Keyc v\u0259 yerd\u0259 qalanlar. Sergey Nevskinin \u201cBoris\u201d operas\u0131nda Qodunovun q\u0259hr\u0259manlar\u0131 Svetlana Aleksiyevi\u00e7in m\u0259tnini oxuyurlar. Bu, tamamil\u0259 siyasi ifad\u0259dir.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Amma o m\u0259tndir.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -M\u00fcqayiz\u0259miz yersiz olacaq, \u00e7\u00fcnki m\u0259n bu sah\u0259d\u0259 pe\u015f\u0259karam, sizs\u0259 o q\u0259d\u0259r d\u0259 yox. Az \u0259vv\u0259l siz d\u0259 m\u0259ni jurnalistika sah\u0259si il\u0259 ba\u011fl\u0131 t\u0259nbeh etdiniz (g\u00fcl\u00fcr). \u0130kinci d\u00fcnya m\u00fcharib\u0259sinin d\u0259h\u015f\u0259tl\u0259rind\u0259n sonra q\u0259\u015f\u0259ng yazmaq m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olmad\u0131, bu haqda b\u00fct\u00f6v bir f\u0259ls\u0259fi c\u0259r\u0259yan var. \u0130ndi d\u0259 m\u00fcasir r\u0259ssamlar\u0131n, o c\u00fcml\u0259d\u0259n musiqi\u00e7il\u0259rin (ax\u0131 s\u0259s h\u0259m\u00e7inin \u0259trafda ba\u015f ver\u0259n ger\u00e7\u0259yin t\u0259zah\u00fcr\u00fcd\u00fcr) yaratd\u0131\u011f\u0131 h\u0259r \u015fey siyasidir. Uzun ill\u0259rdir ki, layih\u0259l\u0259r t\u0259\u015fkil edir\u0259m. Bunlar h\u0259m konsert, h\u0259m r\u0259ssamlarla birg\u0259 perfomanslar, h\u0259m d\u0259 eksperimental musiqi qurulu\u015flar\u0131 ola bil\u0259r. Bu, filarmoniyada ke\u00e7iril\u0259n konsertl\u0259rd\u0259n deyil. Amma Belarusda h\u0259tta onun \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn d\u0259 qastrol v\u0259siq\u0259si almal\u0131yam. M\u0259n h\u0259r hans\u0131 bir orqan\u0131n icaz\u0259si olmadan Mosart\u0131 ifa ed\u0259 bilm\u0259r\u0259m, daha m\u00fcr\u0259kk\u0259b perfomanslar\u0131 demir\u0259m. M\u0259nim \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn musiqi v\u0259 siyas\u0259t iqtisadi \u0259laq\u0259li \u015feyl\u0259rdir, y\u0259ni \u0259m\u0259k haqq\u0131m d\u00f6vl\u0259tin i\u015fl\u0259rinin nec\u0259 getm\u0259sind\u0259n as\u0131l\u0131d\u0131r. Bu, layih\u0259l\u0259rimi Almaniyada ger\u00e7\u0259kl\u0259\u015fdir\u0259 bilm\u0259k s\u0259b\u0259bl\u0259rind\u0259n biri idi, onlar\u0131 orda u\u011furla h\u0259yata ke\u00e7ir\u0259 bilmi\u015fdim. Burda onlar\u0131 etm\u0259k iqtidar\u0131nda deyildim, indi is\u0259 bilir\u0259m.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Niy\u0259? Senzura z\u0259ifl\u0259yib?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Art\u0131q bir ildik ki, m\u0259d\u0259niyy\u0259t xab\u0131n\u0131n art-meneceriy\u0259m, orda d\u0259lisov layih\u0259l\u0259ri h\u0259yata ke\u00e7ir\u0259 bilmi\u015f\u0259m. H\u0259r\u00e7\u0259nd orda da ger\u00e7\u0259kl\u0259\u015fdir\u0259 bilm\u0259diyim layih\u0259l\u0259rim var.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Amma bu, Belarus u\u011frunda azadl\u0131\u011fa nec\u0259 \u00e7evrildi ki?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Bu, i\u00e7im\u0259 el\u0259 m\u00f6hk\u0259m oturub ki, onu h\u0259tta s\u00f6zl\u0259 bel\u0259 ifad\u0259 ed\u0259 bilmir\u0259m. M\u0259n \u0259dal\u0259tsizlik g\u00f6r\u00fcr\u0259m, bu 26 ildir davam edir v\u0259 bu g\u00fcn g\u00f6r\u00fcr\u0259m ki, onu d\u0259yim\u0259k imkan\u0131 var. V\u0259 m\u0259n ba\u015fa d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcr\u0259m ki, faydal\u0131 ola bil\u0259r\u0259m. Konkret olaraq Babarikonu ona g\u00f6r\u0259 d\u0259st\u0259kl\u0259dim ki, bir il \u0259rzind\u0259 onunla yax\u0131ndan tan\u0131\u015f oldum. Biz bir \u00e7ox layih\u0259ni m\u00fczakir\u0259 etmi\u015fik. O, m\u0259n\u0259 \u00e7ox \u015fey \u00f6yr\u0259dib, \u00e7\u00fcnki Belarusda h\u0259r \u015fey \u0259caib \u015f\u0259kild\u0259 ba\u015f verir v\u0259 m\u0259n bir menecer kimi buna yiy\u0259l\u0259nm\u0259liydim. D\u0259y\u0259rl\u0259ri m\u0259nimnkil\u0259r\u0259 \u00e7ox yax\u0131nd\u0131r v\u0259 namiz\u0259dliyini ir\u0259li s\u00fcr\u0259c\u0259yini dey\u0259nd\u0259 ona bir ne\u00e7\u0259 sual verdim. \u0130ndi bu suallar\u0131 m\u0259n\u0259 verirl\u0259r: \u201cSiz n\u0259y\u0259 bula\u015fd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 anlay\u0131rs\u0131n\u0131z? Siz harda oldu\u011funuzu bilirsiniz?\u201d Ax\u0131 haz\u0131rk\u0131 sistem mahiyy\u0259t etibar\u0131 il\u0259 37-ci ild\u0259kind\u0259n he\u00e7 f\u0259rql\u0259nmir. Lakin Babarikonun plan\u0131 vard\u0131 v\u0259 m\u0259n onu d\u0259st\u0259kl\u0259m\u0259yi q\u0259rara ald\u0131m. H\u0259r\u00e7\u0259nd haz\u0131rda oynayaca\u011f\u0131m rolun alt\u0131na gir\u0259c\u0259yimi bilmirdim.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Ax\u0131 Babariko iri banka r\u0259hb\u0259rlik edirdi v\u0259 hesab edirl\u0259r ki, sistemin i\u00e7ind\u0259 olmadan \u00e7\u0259tin ki bu c\u00fcr v\u0259zif\u0259d\u0259 otura bil\u0259rdi…
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -O, m\u00fcasir tama\u015fan\u0131n h\u0259r premyeras\u0131na gedirdi, \u00f6z\u00fc bilet al\u0131r, \u00f6z\u00fc n\u00f6vb\u0259d\u0259 dayan\u0131rd\u0131. Bu, h\u0259r \u015feyd\u0259n x\u0259b\u0259r verirdi! Daha \u015eaqal\u0131 demir\u0259m, amma bu adam \u015eaqal\u0131 Belarusa qaytar\u0131b. D\u00f6vl\u0259t yaxas\u0131n\u0131 k\u0259nara \u00e7\u0259kdiyi halda \u201c\u015eans\u201d xeyriyy\u0259 fondu pul y\u0131\u011f\u0131b u\u015faqlar\u0131 m\u00fcalic\u0259 edir. Bu, \u00e7ox \u015feyd\u0259n x\u0259b\u0259r verir. Bizim \u201cKremlin \u0259li\u201d olma\u011f\u0131m\u0131z haqda \u00e7ox dan\u0131\u015fd\u0131lar, lakin indi g\u00fcnd\u0259m d\u0259yi\u015fib v\u0259 biz art\u0131q Kremlin deyil, yerd\u0259 qalan h\u0259r k\u0259sin \u0259liyik (g\u00fcl\u00fcr). H\u0259r yerd\u0259 qaydalar\u0131n istisnas\u0131 var, odur ki, fleyta \u00e7alanlar da Belarusda etiraz\u0131n t\u0259c\u0259ss\u00fcm\u00fc, bankirl\u0259rs\u0259 superempatik insan v\u0259 Belarus m\u0259d\u0259niyy\u0259tini yeni yarad\u0131c\u0131s\u0131 ola bil\u0259r.\n<\/p>\n

\n \"babryka-1407.jpg\"
\n Viktor Babariko
\n <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

\n
\n -Siz ax\u0131 Babarikonun q\u0259rargah\u0131n\u0131n r\u0259hb\u0259risiniz…
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Xeyr, q\u0259rargah\u0131n r\u0259hb\u0259ri h\u0259m\u00e7inin istintaq t\u0259cridxanas\u0131nda olan Eduard Babarikodur. M\u0259n q\u0259rargah\u0131n n\u00fcmay\u0259nd\u0259siy\u0259m, koordinatoruyam, lakin r\u0259hb\u0259ri deyil\u0259m. Bizd\u0259 m\u0259rk\u0259zl\u0259\u015fdirilm\u0259mi\u015f idar\u0259 sistemidir v\u0259 orda deyilir: \u201c\u0130ndi bel\u0259 etm\u0259k laz\u0131md\u0131r\u201d.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Siyasi texnoloq t\u0259cr\u00fcb\u0259si olmadan i\u015fl\u0259m\u0259k \u00e7\u0259tin deyil ki?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Bizd\u0259 bir n\u0259f\u0259r d\u0259 olsun siyasi texnoloq v\u0259 siyas\u0259t\u00e7i yoxdur. He\u00e7 olmay\u0131b da.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Deyirl\u0259r, bu faydal\u0131d\u0131r…
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -G\u0259lin \u00f6lk\u0259l\u0259rimiz\u0259 baxaq. Bu, \u0259g\u0259r faydal\u0131 olsayd\u0131, y\u0259qin ki m\u00fcxalif\u0259t art\u0131q hans\u0131sa n\u0259tic\u0259 \u0259ld\u0259 ed\u0259rdi.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Amma bel\u0259 olan t\u0259qdird\u0259 se\u00e7kil\u0259r d\u00fcr\u00fcst ke\u00e7irilmir v\u0259 saxtakarl\u0131\u011fa yol verilir? Nec\u0259 yoxlayaq?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -\u018flimizd\u0259 \u0259n\u0259n\u0259vi m\u00fcxalif\u0259t var v\u0259 onun \u00fcsullar\u0131 he\u00e7 i\u015fl\u0259k deyil, odur ki, yenil\u0259ri laz\u0131md\u0131r. N\u0259s\u0259 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcb tapmaq \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcn siyas\u0259t\u00e7i olmaq m\u0259cbur deyil.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -\u00dc\u00e7l\u00fckd\u0259 aparma\u011fa ba\u015flayandan sonra kampaniyan\u0131z\u0131 sanki savadl\u0131 texnoloqlar t\u0259\u015fkil edir.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Lakin onu siyasi texnoloqlar aparm\u0131r.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Lakin h\u0259r k\u0259s \u0259ksini hesab edir.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -H\u0259r k\u0259s yan\u0131l\u0131r! Ax\u0131 siz\u0259 bunun nec\u0259 ba\u015f verdiyini dan\u0131\u015fd\u0131m \u2013 m\u0259n\u0259 ba\u015f prokurorluqdan \u00e7a\u011f\u0131r\u0131\u015f v\u0259r\u0259q\u0259si g\u0259ldi (g\u00fcl\u00fcr).\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Bunu anlad\u0131m, lakin sonra ba\u015f ver\u0259nl\u0259r \u00e7ox d\u0259qiq, g\u00f6z\u0259l v\u0259 q\u0259fil oldu.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Bu arada sadalad\u0131qlar\u0131n\u0131z siyasi texnologiyadan \u00e7ox m\u00fcasir inc\u0259s\u0259n\u0259ti xat\u0131rlatd\u0131.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Y\u0259ni h\u0259r \u015feyi siz d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcs\u00fcn\u00fcz?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -(uzun fasil\u0259, Kolesnikova g\u00fcl\u00fcms\u0259yir, sonra g\u00fclm\u0259y\u0259 ba\u015flay\u0131r). Yox, biz ham\u0131m\u0131z d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fc\u015f\u00fck! Bu m\u00fcsahib\u0259nin ham\u0131da nec\u0259 t\u0259\u0259ss\u00fcrat yaradaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 t\u0259s\u0259vv\u00fcr edir\u0259m (g\u00fcl\u00fcr).\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Niy\u0259?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -\u00c7\u00fcnki siz yerd\u0259 qalanlardan f\u0259rqli olaraq, suallar\u0131 n\u0259s\u0259 ba\u015fqa c\u00fcr verirsiniz.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Siz, \u00fcmumiyy\u0259tl\u0259, bir d\u0259 i\u015fl\u0259m\u0259y\u0259 haz\u0131rla\u015f\u0131rs\u0131n\u0131zm\u0131?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Bilmir\u0259m (g\u00fcl\u00fcr).\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -B\u0259s art-m\u0259rk\u0259ziniz nec\u0259, haz\u0131rda i\u015fl\u0259yir?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Binaya h\u0259bs qoyublar, m\u0259n d\u0259 \u00f6z hesab\u0131ma m\u0259zuniyy\u0259td\u0259y\u0259m.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Y\u0259qin ki, bundan bel\u0259 i\u015fl\u0259m\u0259y\u0259c\u0259k.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Y\u0259qin ki, biz q\u0259l\u0259b\u0259 \u00e7alanacan siz dey\u0259n olacaq.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Onda b\u0259s n\u0259 ed\u0259c\u0259ksiniz?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Cinay\u0259t i\u015finin, n\u0259hay\u0259t, ba\u011flanmas\u0131 v\u0259 ham\u0131n\u0131n azadl\u0131\u011fa burax\u0131lmas\u0131 u\u011frunda m\u00fcbariz\u0259 aparaca\u011fam, daha sonra is\u0259 inc\u0259s\u0259n\u0259t qalib g\u0259l\u0259c\u0259k.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Art\u0131q ayd\u0131nla\u015fd\u0131rd\u0131q ki, bu x\u0259mir \u00e7ox su apara bil\u0259r.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Dem\u0259li, azadl\u0131q \u0259ld\u0259 olunanad\u0259k fleyta \u00e7almayacam (g\u00fcl\u00fcr). Siyasi texnoloji performanslar yaradacam. O performanslar\u0131 ki, he\u00e7 k\u0259s siyasi texnoloqlar\u0131n yaratmad\u0131\u011f\u0131na inanm\u0131r.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -B\u0259s sizin siyasi ambisiyalar\u0131n\u0131z meydana g\u0259lib?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Yox, h\u0259r\u00e7\u0259nd h\u0259r k\u0259s m\u0259n\u0259 bunu s\u00f6yl\u0259yir, amma yox.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -B\u0259lk\u0259 sad\u0259c\u0259 h\u0259l\u0259 ki onlar\u0131n f\u0259rqind\u0259 deyilsiniz?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Bilmir\u0259m, amma g\u00f6rs\u0259m ki, k\u00f6m\u0259k ed\u0259 bil\u0259r\u0259m…\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -M\u0259n bunu n\u0259z\u0259rd\u0259 tutmurdum. Dem\u0259k ist\u0259yirdim ki, b\u0259lk\u0259 d\u00fcr\u00fcst se\u00e7kil\u0259r oldu\u011fu t\u0259qdird\u0259 prezidentliy\u0259 namiz\u0259dliyinizi ir\u0259li s\u00fcr\u0259rsiniz?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -(g\u00fcl\u00fcr) Ciddisiniz? Bu sual\u0131 m\u0259n\u0259 h\u0259r k\u0259s verir, amma niy\u0259?\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -B\u0259s onda kim?
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -Viktor Babariko… Siz ciddi-ciddi hesab edirsiniz ki, m\u0259n prezident ola bil\u0259r\u0259m?\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Zelenski olub ki! H\u0259r\u00e7\u0259nd bilmir\u0259m, bu, b\u0259lk\u0259 d\u0259 al\u00e7ald\u0131c\u0131 m\u00fcqayis\u0259dir…
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -(g\u00fcl\u00fcr) M\u0259n ax\u0131 bununla h\u0259l\u0259 \u00fc\u00e7 ayd\u0131r m\u0259\u015f\u011ful oluram.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Zelenski d\u0259 t\u0259xmin\u0259n bu q\u0259d\u0259r m\u00fcdd\u0259t m\u0259\u015f\u011ful olub.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -O, bundan \u0259vv\u0259l serialda oynay\u0131b, y\u0259ni m\u0259n\u0259n art\u0131q haz\u0131r olub (g\u00fcl\u00fcr).\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Bu, xarizma, c\u0259sar\u0259t, insanlar t\u0259r\u0259find\u0259n tan\u0131nmaq m\u0259s\u0259l\u0259sidir, bu, t\u0259cr\u00fcb\u0259d\u0259n vacibdir.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -D\u00fcz\u00fc, z\u0259nnimc\u0259, hakimiyy\u0259td\u0259 olmaq dar\u0131x\u0131d\u0131r\u0131c\u0131 m\u0259\u015f\u011fuliyy\u0259tdir. Ax\u0131 adam k\u00fc\u00e7\u0259d\u0259 rahat-rahat g\u0259zm\u0259k ist\u0259yir, bel\u0259d\u0259s\u0259 s\u0259n\u0259 el\u0259-hey hara getm\u0259li olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yl\u0259y\u0259c\u0259kl\u0259r.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -Sad\u0259c\u0259 parlament respublikas\u0131 qurmaq laz\u0131md\u0131r, orda Ba\u015f nazir Babariko, prezidens\u0259 siz olacaqs\u0131n\u0131z. M\u0259n h\u0259r \u015feyi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcm.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -H\u0259, art\u0131q bildim siyasi texnoloq kimdir (g\u00fcl\u00fcr). Ciddi olsaq, m\u0259nim Almaniyada ya\u015fay\u0131\u015fq h\u00fcququm var v\u0259 \u0259min\u0259m ki, Belarus qanunlar\u0131na g\u00f6r\u0259, \u00f6lk\u0259d\u0259 be\u015f v\u0259 ya on il ya\u015famaq laz\u0131md\u0131r.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -B\u0259lk\u0259 el\u0259 h\u0259r \u015fey be\u015f il \u00e7\u0259kdi.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

\n -G\u0259lin bu an\u0131 yadda\u015f\u0131m\u0131za h\u0259kk ed\u0259k \u2013 bu g\u00fcn \u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fc d\u0259qiq bu rolda g\u00f6rm\u00fcr\u0259m. H\u0259mi\u015f\u0259 dan\u0131\u015fmazdan \u00f6nc\u0259 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u0259k laz\u0131md\u0131r. M\u0259n s\u0259yah\u0259t etm\u0259yi, s\u00f6rfinqi, muzey\u0259 getm\u0259yi \u00e7ox xo\u015flay\u0131ram. M\u00fcasir inc\u0259s\u0259n\u0259t muzeyl\u0259rind\u0259 g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fc ke\u00e7ir\u0259, ya da h\u0259r hans\u0131 bir festivala, qurulu\u015fa, d\u0259lisov andreqraunda ged\u0259 bil\u0259r\u0259m. Prezidentl\u0259r \u00f6zl\u0259rini bu c\u00fcr aparm\u0131rlar.\n<\/p>\n

\n
\n -\u018fla, stereotipl\u0259ri pozmaq laz\u0131md\u0131r.
\n <\/b>\n<\/p>\n

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